While Lebanon's saga of choosing a new president continues, this Harryzzz exlusive news might shine some new light on the whole thing.According to a well informed source here in Beirut, the following:
Future-leader Saad Hariri and president Emile Lahoud met, in the presidential palace, on Wednesday 21st November [two days before Lahoud was to resign] and agreed on Michel Suleiman as Lebanon's new president. According to this source, Suleiman himself was present, as were the army commander for the north and the army commander for the south. A member of Michel Aoun's Free Patriotic Movement also attended the meeting, but it is unclear to me who. Hezbollah wasn't there.
According to this source, the meeting wasn't very much about negotiations, but more about celebrations. In other words: Hariri came to the palace (which is highly awkward, as he and his party boycott the president) to congratulate Suleiman on his new job while at the same time, Hariri took the opportunity to make a last moment peace with outgoing president Lahoud.
Considering this information is true, I personally don't get it why it wasn't publicly announced and why Hezbollah, being close allies of Michel Aoun's party, still need more time for consultations (next meeting on electing the president is scheduled for December 7th).
At the other hand: He or she who truly understands Lebanese politics, please contact harryzzz for cake and drinks....
Harald Doornbos
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a general? maybe because the army has gained so much respect lately?
@mp
indeed, to many Lebanese the army is the only non-sectarian institution in the country. But the general will play very much the role of an interim president - staying on to avoid chaos and in the meantime trying to avoid to make any real political decisions. So although he's a general, its not like the army is taking over Lebanon (as for instance is the case in Pakistan).
cheers,
Hi there.
Maybe you could help me...
I am a journalism student at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis and I have to write a story on people from Beirut that come to America to escape the violence.
I was wondering if you, or anyone you know has sought refuge in the U.S.? Have you ever considered coming to the U.S. to get away from the violence? or is it something people just get used to?
Thank you very much for your time.
My email is tarr0011@umn.edu
yes, harald, hace you ever thought of seeking refuge from all that violence in ...the us, for instance? and if so, would you go there illegally?
a country like beirut must be a difficult place to stay and raise a family.
@tarr0011
see email.
@tarr0011,
of course america is less violece than Lebanon, but for a Europian like me is't a stanges combination: America (usa) and getting away from violence. But other than that is't a inressting question if enyone ever get's used to that amound of violence
@Tarr0011,
I am a foreigner living in Lebanon and what strikes me is the lack of violence in this country. Sure, the occasional politician gets blown up, but as normal citizen, life over here is actually amazingly safe.
Purse theft, e.g., is reported in the local newspapers. Try to find any 2 million people city in America where they would report that Mrs. X has been robbed of her purse containing 150 dollar and most importantly, pictures of her grandson she would really like back!
Lots of Lebanese are emigrating to other countries, but this has more to do with job opportunities than with personal safety.
I read this quote from Sietske's blog who got it from another blog:
‘If you are not confused by Lebanese politics, then the subject has not been explained to you properly.’
too true.
@anonymous,
good one!
@others,
poor tarr0011 or whatever his or her name might be. Just shows this: be ignorant once, get grilled by the readers. Not bad!
Many Americans and Europeans tend to read Fisk articles on Lebanon and if anybody believed Fisk everybody living now in Lebanon is scared to death because daily kalashnikov fights, murders, and so on and so forth, in short - violence, is just around the corner. ;-)
May be here is part of the answer (from www.joshualandis.com)
How the Lebanese Delegation was Blindsided at Annapolis
Saturday, December 1st, 2007
According to good sources, the Lebanese government was blindsided at Annapolis with the candidacy of Michel Suleiman as President
As officials began to arrive at Annapolis and started circulating, E.U, and then Egyptian officials began to approach their Lebanese counterparts. “Congratulations on your new president,” they were informed.
The jaws of the Lebanese delegates dropped. It was the first any of them had heard of such news.
The Lebanese made their way to Secretary of State Rice to find out the truth of this breaking news. Secretary Rice played coy, claiming that the deal was the doing of the French and Egyptians. It was not clear to what extent she was on top of the latest deal making.
Kouchner is primary target of Lebanese contempt. They blame him for pulling the rug out from under them and fixing the deal behind their backs. It was their way of getting the Syrians to Annapolis. Egypt helped swing the deal. They had been in favor of Michel Suleiman from the start. The Saudis had fallen into line begrudgingly.
Faysal Miqdad, the Syrian Deputy Foreign Minister, was by all accounts very quite and subdued at the Annapolis meeting. He did not demand attention, but rather watched the proceedings with an air of satisfaction and anticipation. One reporter told me that the Syrian delegation was jubilant after it was over.
As one Lebanese said, “The French screwed us because they brought Syria to Annapolis. They decided the President of Lebanon without March 14.”
When asked what is wrong with Suleiman. I was told. “He is an unknown person to March 14.”
The Fouad Seniora government had wanted, in order of preference, the president to be
Nassib Lahoud
Butros Harb
Khoury
Evidently, Saad Hariri had not been so much asked as told by the French that Michel Suleiman was to be given the go ahead to become president.
He caved to the French pressure because he has been faced with growing complaints from the Christians that the Sunnis are taking too much power. Hariri has been accused of hurting the Christians by allowing the presidency to remain weak. They are worried that Hariri will allow it to remain vacant now that Lahoud has gone.
The March 14 position of insisting that the president be elected by the parliament based on a vote from 50% of the deputies plus-one collapsed when Cardinal Sfeir announced that he would not accept this.
SO HOW DO WE EXPLAIN THIS?
Why would France want Syria at Annapolis so much? Why would Washington allow itself to be dragged along? What about Saudi Arabia and Israeli?
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At this point I enter into the land of speculation. The above part of this story seems fairly well sourced and I trust it.
What follows is what some well placed Lebanese believe. I do not believe that the US can or will attack Iran, but many Lebanese do. It is how they explain what happened at Annapolis. This is what was told to me. The anxiety that Lebanon will be cut loose and sold down the river by the US and France is palpable.
"It is all about Iran," my informant explained to me.
The Lebanese feel certain that the US is planning to hit Iran this summer.
France and Israel do not want the Assad regime to fall. They do not want Syria to get sucked into a conflict. If Iran is going to get hit, they do not want the radicals to be able to move. This means getting Syria safely off the Iran ship before it goes down. Syria had to be "flipped," no matter the price.
Kind Abdullah of Saudi Arabia called Bashar al-Assad to warn him that “this was his last chance” and that he had to find a safe port to weather the storm. “You have to move over to the Arab camp now.” The Saudis went along with the Michel Suleiman request begrudgingly.
Turkey also played an important role in bringing the Syrians on board. P.M. Erdoghan called Bashar four times.
One Lebanese said, “When you hear Israeli P.M. Olmert saying such nice things to the Palestinians it is to shut them up so that should Iran get hit, the Middle East does not blow up. It is not because he wants to be nice to Palestinians.”
“This is what the French have done.” I was told. “The hit on Iran is going to come at the expense of March 14. This is the only reason the French and Egyptians are doing this. They feel certain that Iran is going to get hit.”
“This is to get Syria out of Iran’s orbit. Israel does not want Bashar to fall. They pushed to get Assad to Annapolis. They do not want anything to lead to war with Syria or the toppling of the regime, which would only multiply chaos in the region. France shares Israel's concern about Syria. The Sarkozy presidency is with Israel. It is different now than it was under Chirac when Lebanon was a primary concern for France and Hariri had a good understanding with the president."
When I asked if the Michel Suleiman would become President and if his candidacy could get through the steps needed. I was told:
"Iran wants a “faragh” or vacuum in Lebanon. Any president will be bad for Iran, because he will act as a restraint on Hizbullah. Thus, acting on Iran's orders, Hizbullah will not let a president be elected.”
There is another explanation for the story of Annapolis and why the Syrians have been brought in from the cold by the Israelis and France. It is that the French have lost confidence in the March 14th government and believe that a compromise president for Lebanon, even at the price of amending the constitution, is better than enduring with no president at all. Israel does not feel that it can make a deal with the divided Palestinians and prefers to see what headway is possible with Syria, which is a state and has a leader who is in control, can deliver, and says he wants a deal.
[I will be in Chicago over the weekend, giving a talk Sunday at 12:30 at the Syrian-American Congress with Samir 'Aita. It will be held at the South West Marriot Hotel in Burr Ridge.]
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@ella,
Precisely. Fisk is Fisk...very bad journalist, but a great ambassador to the Arab World.
Of course Lebanon isn't that dramatic on danger. Honestly, Lebanon is - by far - the safest place I've ever lived in (except its traffic and those very limited times of war of course).
cheers,
anonymous
Syrian propaganda is good and well but on Josh Landis blog.
Strange, why give a full post when the link, and perhaps a fragment of Josh post would have been enough?
btw, Syria would love Lebanese to view France with contempt, just like Lebanese view Syria.
As for Lebanese politicians, lebanese people, Suleyman and so on .....well, we will see, but I would not put much faith in Josh analysis.
can anyone explain march 14 to me?
@MP
14th March - government, sunni, druze and part christians, more or less anti Syria.
8th march - opposition, hezbollah and Aoun christians, more or less pro-Syria.
thanks, man. now, if you don't mind, please just a word on how these expressions came up.
sorry for my ignorance, i'm on the other side of the mediterranean.
m.p.
Really? I think I am further from Lebnon than you are however I think that Wikipedia is as far from you as it is from me
;-)
thanks ella. you're right, i shoulda consulted the wiki.
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